Getting an external gotek to register as drive 2

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Lardo Boffin
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Getting an external gotek to register as drive 2

Post by Lardo Boffin » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:48 pm

My TC01 has two physical drives but when I plug in my gotek to the external drive port it will only work if I disconnect the power to drive 0 which suggests that it is appearing as drive 0 to the computer.

Any idea what jumper settings are required on the gotek to allow my drive 0 to work and the gotek to be drive 2?

Gotek jumper settings:

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Many thanks!

Lardo
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Re: Getting an external gotek to register as drive 2

Post by retrogamer » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:22 pm

Great question, Lardo.

Having researched this, I don't think this is possible :(

We know that the Einstein recognises 4 drives (0-3) and the Shugart interface has 4 drive select lines.

BUT the Gotek has only 2 drive select jumpers. So on the Einstein this means S0 gives Drive 0, and S1 gives Drive 1. So, yes, you can have two Goteks :D

Very happy to be corrected, but it looks like the Gotek can't be numbered as Drive 2 or Drive 3. Adding a third drive as a Gotek would therefore require setting one of your internal drives (you're so lucky to have two!) as Drive 2 or Drive 3, if possible.

I'm aware that Keir is looking at developing FlashFloppy to emulate two drives in a single Gotek. Wow! But this will require a hardware mod to the Gotek unit.

I'll edit my previous post to link here to keep the forum up-to-date.

Richard

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Re: Getting an external gotek to register as drive 2

Post by Lardo Boffin » Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:46 am

Thanks Richard!

Interesting news about double disc goteks. That would be very useful, especially if they did not cost much more than a standard one.
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Re: Getting an external gotek to register as drive 2

Post by Lardo Boffin » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:47 am

A couple of snaps from the hardware manual:

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So presumably I can set what is currently drive 0 to 1 and 1 to 2 so I have:

0 - gotek
1 - 3” drive
2 - 3” drive

Will give that a go at some point.
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Re: Getting an external gotek to register as drive 2

Post by retrogamer » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:37 pm

... or possibly even

0 - Gotek 800k
1 - Gotek 800k
2 - 3” drive
3 - 3” drive

:lol:

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Re: Getting an external gotek to register as drive 2

Post by retrogamer » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:03 pm

So it looks like there is a way to configure a Gotek to be Drive 2, after all :)

But it is a hardware mod ...

Richard Loxley suggests bypassing the jumpers on the Gotek and replacing them with a rotary selector switch that can also connect to the drive select pins for Drive 2 and Drive 3 on the Gotek 34 pin connector.
https://www.richardloxley.com/2017/04/1 ... py-cables/

I've checked this in principle with DIR and by running a game from my Gotek as Drive 2 (and Drive 3) with a temporary connecting wire in place. And it seems to work!

The Drive 0 select signal is on pin 10. Placing the jumper on S0 passes this to the Gotek.
The Drive 1 select signal is on pin 12. Placing the jumper on S1 passes this to the Gotek.
The Drive 2 select signal is on pin 14. So connecting pin 14 to the S1 pin configures the Gotek as Drive 2!
The Drive 3 select signal is on pin 6 (see the Hardware Manual). So connecting pin 6 to the S1 pin configures the Gotek as Drive 3!

So it would seem that it's not as impossible as I thought to configure a Gotek as Drive 2 or Drive 3 on the Einstein!

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Re: Getting an external gotek to register as drive 2

Post by Lardo Boffin » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:50 pm

Interesting and a great link thanks! Now I know why drive B spins when reading gotek A.
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