einSDein troubleshooting

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Lardo Boffin
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einSDein troubleshooting

Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:50 pm

Not necessarily related to my keyboard but more likely the general instability of my tatty I am having troubles with the einsDein.

Sometimes when I switch on I get this:
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Sometimes when I get a no discs in drive 2 or 3 error:
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Sometimes it works and does DIR (keyboard permitting) and then fails:

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I have cleaned the PIPE pins a couple of times.

So presumably it either doesn’t like the SD card or my flaky tatty?
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Re: Keyboard troubles

Post by vanpeebles » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:18 pm

I get this too, I reckon my Tatty is well flakey :(

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Re: Keyboard troubles

Post by sirmorris » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:59 pm

It looks remarkably like the symptoms that Mr. vanpeebles has been seeing. It'll be interesting to see how his z80 transplant goes. I don't think this is an SD card issue. If you're worried that it's a defective board then I'll be happy to re-test it for you. I don't think it is though, as I had vanpeeble's board back for testing and it checked out fine :? Out of curiosity is your einsdein ROM an EEPROM (no window) type or a regular EPROM?

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Re: Keyboard troubles

Post by vanpeebles » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:37 am

sirmorris wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:59 pm
It looks remarkably like the symptoms that Mr. vanpeebles has been seeing. It'll be interesting to see how his z80 transplant goes. I don't think this is an SD card issue. If you're worried that it's a defective board then I'll be happy to re-test it for you. I don't think it is though, as I had vanpeeble's board back for testing and it checked out fine :? Out of curiosity is your einsdein ROM an EEPROM (no window) type or a regular EPROM?
What would be the best replacement z80 to buy? :)

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Re: Keyboard troubles

Post by Lardo Boffin » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:41 am

sirmorris wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:59 pm
It looks remarkably like the symptoms that Mr. vanpeebles has been seeing. It'll be interesting to see how his z80 transplant goes. I don't think this is an SD card issue. If you're worried that it's a defective board then I'll be happy to re-test it for you. I don't think it is though, as I had vanpeeble's board back for testing and it checked out fine :? Out of curiosity is your einsdein ROM an EEPROM (no window) type or a regular EPROM?
I doubt it is the board as well.

Mine has an EPROM I believe (with a little bit of sticker covering the window).

When the keyboard works I can load some games (depending on the file name / keys working at the time) from floppy disc and they happily run.

Could it be a similar issue to Spectrums and the Z80 where stuff like the DIVMMC doesn’t work?
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Re: Keyboard troubles

Post by Lardo Boffin » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:43 am

I get Z80s from here for Spectrums and ZX81s but not sure if they will work at 4MHz?

https://www.retroleum.co.uk/zx-spectrum-chips

Edit - I think Pokemon used to sell 8MHz Z80s on Sell My Retro.
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Re: Keyboard troubles

Post by vanpeebles » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:40 am

Good place that, he sourced my Tatung replacement ram. I wonder if the new zilog made z80 would be best?

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Re: Keyboard troubles

Post by vanpeebles » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:46 am

Tried sd setup in new tatung, worked perfect first time, then fell over ever since, doing the same no drive, which drive :(

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Re: Keyboard troubles

Post by vanpeebles » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:50 am

No hex errors like first tc01, just endless no drive, which drive, indentical to lardo.

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einSDein troubleshooting

Post by sirmorris » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:06 am

I'll keep updating this first post with any relevant information that comes to light regarding issues with einSDein.

When reporting an issue it would help if certain information was provided.
  • OS ROM version
  • einSDein ROM type (EPROM with window, EEPROM without)
  • SD card brand/size
  • A short precis of the symptoms experienced
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